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‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’ is very simply written.
– Peter Hook
You look at 30 Seconds to Mars, and you don’t think, ‘Ooh, I bet they’re angry.’ No one really does anger these days. I suppose it’s a turn-off.
When you balance it against New Order, New Order don’t work or tour relentlessly. We definitely work in our own way and sometimes it’s a bit too slow for me, so I like to plan ahead and fill my time up.
But then I quite enjoy when something goes wrong, because when I watch DJs that take it very seriously, it’s nice when you make a mistake and laugh about it.
The reason Joy Division and New Order are as influential and successful as they are is because of the unique playing of all the individuals.
When you’ve travelled for 34 years as a musician, you do all the culture stuff when you’re young and full of energy. In the middle stage, you indulge too much and are scared of daylight. Then, in the final stage, you’ve seen it all, so you tend to take things a lot easier.
I’ve stayed in hotels where you were scared to even put your feet on the floor, or had to sleep in a chair.
I was reading an article about Kings of Leon’s bass player, who said that he was directly influenced by Joy Division and by me. I was like, ‘Woah!’ It surprised me. It’s a great compliment.
I am man enough to be able to admit my own mistakes. I think that is an important trait to have.
‘Unknown Pleasures’ is a very important record for me. It was the first LP that I recorded.
It was nice doing my own Joy Division book to be able to put forward the fact that Ian was actually quite a nice guy and very hardworking, ambitious and loyal. But the thing was, he was battling such a dreadful illness in an era when they really didn’t know how to treat it.
When you get the right people together, writing music becomes very effortless.
Knowing very little about a band only adds to the allure.
Sarcasm is a Manchester trait.
What I’ve learned is that life is a balance between idealism and realism.
I just like keeping busy and having ten things on the go.
The thing with Joy Division’s music is that each member was playing like a separate line. We hardly ever played together; we all played separately. But when you put it together, it was like the ingredients in a cake.
I think that you have to bear in mind that music is about escape, and it’s not unreasonable to think the music business would be based around escapism.
Yeah, I still feel as if I have things to do really. I’m not ready to stop.
Music was such an important part of everyone’s life in the ’60s and ’70s, but everywhere you played, the music was dreadful.
I read one too many books about Joy Division by people who weren’t there, and they always seem to dwell on the dark, the intense, the miserable image of Joy Division.
I’m not a good flyer. Because I do it so much, I think the odds of something going wrong are not in my favour.
Once you made that decision to split New Order up, you were like, ‘Woo-hoo! I better get out there and get a job.’
I play a lot of hard, uncompromising dance music; it can be anything from dance to rock to reggae.
I don’t pretend to be Joy Division or New Order. What I do is very straight forward: it’s an interpretation and a celebration of the music, with different people. Everyone looks at it and knows exactly what I’m doing.
What was punk all about? To me, it was if you really want to do something, go ahead and do it.
Bass players are always the underdogs of the band, but I made sure that I was never viewed as one. I went out of my way to steal as much limelight as I could.
People go and hide, but I don’t. I’m a fighter.
I’ve been very grateful and humbled by the fact that young people really dig Joy Division’s music. It’s a great testament to the chemistry and the songwriting prowess between the four original members.
It’s the same misconception I used to have. I meet people and think they’re millionaires and they’re not.